ILONA STALLER INTERVIEWS ILONA STALLER
February, 18 1996



Cicciolina’s been defined a “wicked baby”, a “brothers Grimm’s faerie”, a “demonic dream”, a “love dream”.
Cicciolina is a fancy.
Cicciolina is against any kind of violence: violence of rape, violence of newspapers, violence of wars, violence of nuclear tests , violence of tanks,.
Certainly, Cicciolina, as Fellini used to say, touches one's dreams: even true, real dreams, so that dream and reality are one, becoming surreal.
I noticed that dream and reality join when I am among the people and I see them talking to me, smiling to me, saying:
“Look, there is Cicciolina!”
as if I were an alien from Mars.
Cicciolina is part of the dream, not of reality, then?
Yes, it’s probably so. This morning I went at the post office and a boy asked me
“May I have an autograph and kiss your cheek?”.
I said yes!
This is Cicciolina on the public side.
Privately, yet, Ilona can you keep Ilona apart from Cicciolina?
Yes, I can!
Ilona, how much it costs you personify Cicciolina?
I would say nothing.
I, like all woman artists in the world _ Ornella Muti, Demi Moore, Sharon Stone _ love to go for a walk in the country, near a beautiful brook, where I used to go, practicing Yoga, feeling in touch with nature.
Have you got any girl friend, Ilona?
I don’t have many true friends, one of them is Tania. Strange enough, when I try to rely sentimentally upon a friend, she doesn’t love me enough to protect me. I like better talk about me to other people, to strangers. And this affects me deeply.
Do you, Ilona, identify yourself completely with Cicciolina or do other people always see you as Cicciolina?
I’m Cicciolina!
But, as my fellow member of Parliament, men, said, Ilona Staller is something else!
They didn’t understand that, even if Ilona Staller sat in Parliament always dressed up, she was Cicciolina all the same even sitting on the benches of Montecitorio!
When I was on air, in 197, I spoke to people as Cicciolina, I created there the term “Cicciolini”, naming so my listeners. I was, in fact, Cicciolina yet, speaking “ini-ini-ini” with all diminutives.
I had this way of talking, of acting as Cicciolina and Ilona Staller, yet. I remember when in 1978 Salvetti (who organized a festival similar to San Remo) begged me to give up the name of Cicciolina and let me call Ilona Staller to enclose me in Festivalbar, I decided not to give up my stage name. I gave up Festivalbar, instead.
Because I felt I couldn’t part Cicciolina character from Ilona Staller: it would have been as giving up myself!
What am I afraid of?
I’m afraid of nothing!
I think i tiled my brick in show business too. Because for me it’s important to exist.
Some people die without ever having existed.
Am I afraid of tomorrow?
No, I believe I’m not.
For a simply reason:
We’ll all grow old…
Some get already old at twenty, some at thirty, some at eighty. I think I’ll die and grow old, when i will have nothing more to say to people.
How do you explain Cicciolina fancy?
An artist isn’t an artist by me, if she hasn’t got a great glamour and a great charism. I do have.
And then you deserve a pinch of folly to embody fantasy. If you don’t have this pinch of folly is not an artist!
Do you think you are an artist?
Yes, I do!
In my performances I sing, I dance and I act, I’m naked, and people love me. I look the audience through, I must convey all the feelings and sexiness I have into.
But I never act!
I’m spontaneous, I’m true.
Some reporter has written it down: “Cicciolina” got voted not because of porn but because is a real person. People feel when a person is true”.
Do I feel people love me?
Yes! Some love me so much.
Some are fanatic at me. Nevertheless some don’t love me.
Because there are maniacs who hate sex; and it can even happen that someone in his madness would kill me. I wouldn’t like to end up as John Lennon. However you can learn everything from nature. I always steal all of her expression, all of her moments from nature. Ilona is a person that has never made survival strategy. She
has always refused to come to a compromise. I always had a hard life, but I’m a woman excite by difficulty. Just thin what a bore it would be finding all ready and going. Who knows, I believe, however, in transformations. Very woman messes about and has her fantasies. Ilona – Cicciolina is a free person, unmuzzled, Ilona –
Cicciolina is unbearable.
I believe in reincarnation.
After I’m dead I’d like to become a butterfly, or cow giving good milk for all the children who will drink it. That way I’ll survive.
I would like to show you and let you know the words of one of my song, written and produced by me, that I sing in my shows.
The title of the song is “I survive”, listen to it!


I shall live again, I shall be a pink butterfly.
I shall sleep in a meadow full of colors.
I shall awake between flowers.
I shall fly, I shall court the Sun.
I shall be mirrored, I shall play with a baby.
I won’t scare him.
And you will see the dawn.
Life shall change.
Far, far away from here.
As a god, I shall live again, I shall be a pink butterfly.
I shall sleep in a meadow full of colors.
I shall awake between flowers.
Story of a bat that dreamt to be a butterfly.
And, knowing not to be fine,
Hung his wish to a star.
And when that star fell down
The bat didn’t have his mouse wings any more.
And this tale means
That the day you must die,
If you fall asleep by a flower,
If you believe that your body will not die,
You shall awake, maybe, a butterfly.
And you shall fly towards love.
I shall fly, I shall court the Sun.
I shall slide on the colors of rainbow
And fall in your hand.








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